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Info-Hams Digest            Mon, 29 Nov 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1399

Today's Topics:
     Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 24 November
                     Emergency use of modified HT
                      FT530 receiver problems??
                       HAM-server index update
                        HELP! IC28A ES COLD WX
                        IS there any FAQ ?????
                 Logging program for casual contacts
                        MCW with an HTX-202???
                        QSL route for ZF2SV/8?
                       rec.radio.amateur.packet
                   VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 26 November
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 11:40:42 MST
From: gumby!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs![e-mail]
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 24 November
To: [e-mail]

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                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY

                                24 NOVEMBER, 1993

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 24 NOVEMBER, 1993
------------------------------------------------------------

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 328, 11/24/93
10.7 FLUX=100.0  90-AVG=094        SSN=078      BKI=2200 0001  BAI=002
BGND-XRAY=B2.5     FLU1=8.6E+05  FLU10=1.2E+04  PKI=2211 2121  PAI=005
  BOU-DEV=010,010,004,004,004,004,004,008   DEV-AVG=006 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= C1.4   @ 2223UT    XRAY-MIN= B1.8   @ 0241UT   XRAY-AVG= B3.8
NEUTN-MAX= +001%  @ 2150UT   NEUTN-MIN= -003%  @ 1050UT  NEUTN-AVG= -0.4%
  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2325UT     PCA-MIN= -0.4DB @ 1330UT    PCA-AVG= +0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55361NT @ 2358UT   BOUTF-MIN=55343NT @ 1927UT  BOUTF-AVG=55355NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+078,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+130NT@ 1804UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-058NT@ 1126UT  G6-AVG=+098,+017,-031
 FLUXFCST=STD:095,090,088;SESC:095,090,088 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,005,005/015,010,010
    KFCST=3443 3222 2233 3222  27DAY-AP=016,010   27DAY-KP=3344 3234 3322 3222
 WARNINGS=*SWF
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 23 NOV 93 is not available.
      The Full Kp Indices for 23 NOV 93 are not available.


SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
--------------------

             Solar activity was low due to a C1 flare from Region 7618
       (N06W85) at 1854UT. Region 7620 (N05W10) nearly doubled in size
       during the period and produced frequent B-class flares. Some
       mixed polarities are visible in the Region as is an arch
       filament system which bodes well for further growth. Region
       7622 (N13E36) was stable with infrequent fluctuations.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity should be low
       with Region 7622 producing the bulk of the C-class flares.
       Continued growth in 7620 will make M-class flares more
       likely.

            The geomagnetic field remained quiet.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field
       should be generally unsettled for 24 nov. Quiet to unsettled
       conditions should be experienced on 25 and 26 nov.

            Event probabilities 25 nov-27 nov

                             Class M    25/30/30
                             Class X    01/01/01
                             Proton     01/01/01
                             PCAF       Green

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 25 nov-27 nov

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                20/15/15
                        Minor Storm           05/01/01
                        Major-Severe Storm    01/01/01

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                25/20/20
                        Minor Storm           10/01/01
                        Major-Severe Storm    01/01/01

            HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions.
       The coronal-hole related disturbance did not materialize.
       Conditions are expected to continue normal over all regions.
       There is an increasing chance for isolated SWFs (short-wave
       fadeouts) due to possible minor flaring from developing
       Region 7620 over daylit paths.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 24/2400Z NOVEMBER
-----------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7618  N06W86  340  0210 DAO  05  009 BETA
7620  N05W11  265  0230 ESI  11  028 BETA
7622  N13E34  220  0080 CAO  06  011 BETA
7621  S09W04  258                    PLAGE
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 25 NOVEMBER TO 27 NOVEMBER
NMBR LAT    LO
7613 S12   155


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 24 NOVEMBER, 1993
-------------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP
 1527 1528 1529                         2500


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 24 NOVEMBER, 1993
-----------------------------------------------------------
 BEGIN        MAX      END     LOCATION   TYPE   SIZE  DUR  II IV
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 24/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
49   N48W38 N20W63 N25W71 N50W43  312  ISO   POS   009 10830A
51   N30E67 S20E62 N10E45 N30E55  201  ISO   POS   019 10830A


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
23 Nov: 0813  0818  0824  B3.3  SF  7618  N04W61
        1132  1139  1146  B5.2
        1201  1205  1208  B3.8  SF  7622  N15E55
        1630  1635  1644  B2.7  SF  7620  N03E04
        1832  1838  1847  B4.0
        2234  2238  2244        SF  7620  N03E03


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
  Region 7618:  0   0   0     1   0   0   0   0    001  (16.7)
  Region 7620:  0   0   0     2   0   0   0   0    002  (33.3)
  Region 7622:  0   0   0     1   0   0   0   0    001  (16.7)
Uncorrellated: 0   0   0     0   0   0   0   0    002  (33.3)

 Total Events: 006 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
                            NO EVENTS OBSERVED.

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 22:41:13 GMT
From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate![e-mail]
Subject: Emergency use of modified HT
To: [e-mail]

Subject: Emergency use of modified HT
From: WB9VGJ, [e-mail]
In article <[e-mail]> WB9VGJ,
[e-mail] writes:
>As to the argument whether the ham that used the HT on the sheriff's
department
>frequency, here are the rules from Part 97:
>
>97.403 Safety of life and protection of property
>
>  No provision of these rules prevents the use of an amateur station of
>  any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential
>  communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human
>  life and immediate protection of property when normal communication
>  systems are not available.
>
>97.405 Station in distress
>
>  (a) No provision of these rules prevents the use of an amateur
>  station in distress of any means at its disposal to attract attention,
>  make knows its condition and location, and obtain assistance.
>
>  (b) No provision  of these rules prevents the use by a station, in the
>  exceptional circumstances described in paragraph (a), of any means of
>  radiocommunications at its disposal to assist a station in distress.
>
>So, it is certainly clear to me that the actual use of the HT is 100%
legal
>according to the rules.  However, the actual possession of the HT capable
>of transmitting out of band might be another story.  Still, these two
sections
>override any amateur band limits stated elsewhere in the rules.  Not
being
>a lawyer, I can only interpret the rules for what they say, not what some
>legal eagle might think they say.
>
>73,
>
>John, WB9VGJ
>
>=========================================================
>John L. Broughton | snail mail: Room 1K-324
>AT&T              |             1200 E. Warrenville Rd.
>                  |             P.O. Box 3045
>                  |             Naperville, IL 60566-7045
>                  |             [phone]
>                  |     e-mail: [e-mail]
>                  |             att!john.l.broughton
>                  |   air mail: WB9VGJ
>=========================================================



Well, I've read several postings from ARRL staff members.  But none on
this subject.  Does the ARRL actually do anything useful?  Or is
soliciting dues the most activity they do?  Isn't this a case crying out
for an *energetic* national amateur radio association to correct before
it gets out of hand?  Does anybody know where we could find such an
organization?

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Date: 27 Nov 1993 21:25:33 -0600
From: munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!abc.ksu.ksu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: FT530 receiver problems??
To: [e-mail]

In article <2cges6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steven Adams) writes:
>I have noticed that my FT530 receives some of our local repeaters when it
>is tuned slightly off of the known freq. For example the 145.23 may come
>in a little better at 145.225 and 145.235.  Any ideas??
>
>--
>____________________________________________________________________________
>Steven Adams
>internet - [e-mail]
>HAM      - KD6KGJ
>Packet   - KD6KGJ@n6qmy.#nocal.ca.usa.na
>

This is because of the wide bandwidth of FM transmissions (I believe).  Because
FM transmissions take up so much bandwidth, the transmissions can be heard
slightly off-frequency.

Hope this helps.

73 de N0YAX
-.  -----  -.--  .-  -..-
Jeremy Utley
[e-mail]     (Internet)
cbr600@ksuvm                (Bitnet)
BXTH85A                     (Prodigy)
n0yax@n0oer.#neks.ks.usa.na (Packet Radio)

--- Standard Disclaimers Apply ---

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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 08:19:48 MST
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs![e-mail]
Subject: HAM-server index update
To: [e-mail]

HAM-server updated index -------------------------------------------------

The following has been changed:

Moved /hamradio/packet/mlhacker to /hamradio/newsletters

If you do not know how to use HAM-server, send email to
[e-mail].  In the text, place HELP.

Orders must be sent to HAM-server.  Orders sent to KA6ETB or HAMSinfo are
ignored.  If you are reading this from usenet, do not respond to this post.
You must send email to [e-mail].

A new INDEX is automatically generated weekly and when files are moved or
added.

The archives may contain the same file under different names.  If you should
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 Send email with a short description (so I know where to put it) to
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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 93 10:47:03 EST
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com![e-mail]
Subject: HELP! IC28A ES COLD WX
To: [e-mail]

Bob, I'm not sure if both VFO and Memories are unlocking, or what.
The main thing about synthesizers is: 1)Is the VCO still in "linear range", or
is it maxed out at one of the limits? 2)Is the reference oscillator (5.12 Mhz?)
still ticking?  3)A mixed oscillator might also be going out (I've seen
crystals fail before).  The actual synthesizer part usually outputs about 5-6
Mhz, and is mixed with another crystal oscillator/multiplied up.

Bottom line, put the rig in the freezer, and check the crystal oscillators with
a general coverage receiver with a clip lead near the oscillator to the antenna
input of your g.c. receiver.

Good Luck..73 Woody AK2F

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 20:26:05 GMT
From: newsgate.watson.ibm.com!watnews.watson.ibm.com!hawnews.watson.ibm.com![e-mail]
Subject: IS there any FAQ ?????
To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Khurram Shahzad) writes:
>
> Well all this stuff sounds very interesting. I have a lot of questions.
> Is there a faq ? Or any document that would explain some basic stuff to
> me ???

I agree. A lot of readers would highly appreciate FAQ's in this newsgroup.
That would eliminate duplicate questions and give fast answers to many.
The scanner's stuff was just of general interest of mine.
Yesterday I was on Santa Claus parade in Toronto. It's quite
interesting and long street show. In a few hours everyone was asking each other
"when Santa will arrive..?" No answers was gotten until some guy came by with
a scanner in his hands. His was listening a transmissions between Global Television,
their operators, police and some other services and gave us a most complete
information about all further street and parade actions.
I was quite impressed by this and start thinking about purchasing of scanner.

Gleb Esman.

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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 20:44:30 MST
From: munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!stat![e-mail]
Subject: Logging program for casual contacts
To: [e-mail]

I'm looking for a program for logging casual contacts (vs contest
operation) ... any suggestions?

david

---
Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
Internet: [e-mail]                 FAX: [phone]
Bitnet  : ATW1H@ASUACAD

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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 00:57:17 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!icaen![e-mail]
Subject: MCW with an HTX-202???
To: [e-mail]

I have a radio shack htx-202.  I'm interested in netting with some other
locals trying to up our code-speed via 2-meter MCW (until I get my HF rig
on the air).  Question:  How could I do MCW with it?  I'd prefer to use
something which would key the transmitter semi-QSK-wise when I hit the code
key--know what I mean?

Any ideas?

--
__  /|  | Doug Renze, N0YVW       |
\'o.O'  | [phone]         |   If you can read this you're too close.
=(___)= | [e-mail]  |
   U    | [e-mail] |

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Date: 29 Nov 93 03:08:40 GMT
From: world![e-mail]
Subject: QSL route for ZF2SV/8?
To: [e-mail]

Greetings. I'm posting this on behalf of a friend without Internet access,
who worked ZF2SV/8 while FW/G4DZC in October, 1992. No info in callbook
or on DX cluster for QSL-ing. Any information much appreciated.

73, Sharon KC1YR

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electronic address: [e-mail]

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Date: 22 Nov 93 15:40:50 edt
From: newsflash.concordia.ca!altitude!mala.CAM.ORG!mala![e-mail]
Subject: rec.radio.amateur.packet
To: [e-mail]

     Just wondering, did something happen to
rec.radio.amateur.packet?  Cause I don't seem to be receiving it any
more.  Please let me know.


___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 09:14:20 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!sgiblab!rpal.rockwell.com!headwall.Stanford.EDU!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!mstar!n8emr![e-mail]
Subject: VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 26 November
To: [e-mail]

==============================================================
|  Automatic relayed from packet radio via              |
|            N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553                   |
==============================================================

SB DX @ ALLBBS $RTDX1126
VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 26 November
VK2SG RTTY DX Notes for week ending 26 November 1993 (BID RTDX1126)

The bands have been poor again this week, and forecasts are not good.

I would like to repeat some comments allready made before.  It
concerns the removal of the Bulletin Identification Number of the
notes.  During the week I received from Spain notes which I edited a
month ago.  The BID number has been removed and replaced with a local
bid number.  This has caused confusion and some BBSs suffer the
multiple delivery of the DX notes with different BIDs.  Please only
pass on the received BID number.  If you cannot do this, then allow
someone else who can pass on the correct BID to do so.

Our information this week came from ZS5S, W2JGR, WB2CJL, AA5AU, I5ICY,
I5IGQ, IK1HSR, SP5AA, DJ3IW and the Central Eu Dx-Cluster node DB0SPC,
and NJ0M node of the Twin Cities Dx Pck Cluster.  Tnx for the help on
putting this notes together.


Bandpass:

Friday 19
0145-14077 UA0SMF Zone 18
1303-21082 FH/DL5XU
2226-14078 8P6BU (PPBU) FEC

Saturday 20
0730-14083 SV2BBJ
0734-14087 V73BN
0750-14085 XT2BW QSL WB2YQH
0905-14083 EA6NB
1020-14086 HK4DF
1345-14084 KC6SH QSL JK1QNK
1501-14087 FR5FI
1519-21089 CP1FF
1521-14085 IS0HMB
2228--7036 SU1AH

Sunday 21
0829-14085 KC6HY
0905-14087 9H1ET
0933-14083 TA5C
0935-14085 RT7U
0940-14084 YU1NR
0958-21085 EA8ATE
1012-21085 Z32JA
1119-21087 UN5PR
1301-14080 ZC4ML
1400-21086 TY1PS
1420-21082 FH/DL5XU QSX up QSL DL5XU
1650-14086 FG5GI
1705-14087 HP1XVI
2257-14087 YV1AVO

Monday 22
1316-14086 UN5PR
1345-14082 LA2QAA
1345-14082 LZ1DB
1515-14087 GI4SRQ
1634-14086 GW4WQQ

Tuesday 23
0711-14081 9D2UU QSL LZ2UU Jordan Radkov Yankov, Box 196,
7200 Razgrad, Bulgaria
0615-14083 UH8AAB QSL Box 117, Ashkabad 744035, Turkmenistan
1428-14082 VQ9FM
1430-14082 9H1ET

Wednesday 24
0916-14087 LZ1DB
0950-14087 RT7U
1000-14083 UA0SMF
1023-14082 9D2UU
1250-14087 UH8AAB
1250-14086 UW3AT
1255-14087 J28JJ
1520-14083 9K2IC

Thursday 25
0643-14080 FK8GS
0709-14084 9V1VN
0714-14087 ZL2BHM
0736-14083 WL7EF
0805-14086 UH8AAB
1210-21070 3B8FW  (BBFW) FEC
1458-14090 WB8YJF/VP9


Notes of Interest:

SOUTH COOK. A group of JA's will be QRV 160 through 10 meter from
November 25 on CW, SSB and RTTY.

Send your bandpass and notes for next week to Bob,
WB2CJL @ W5KSI.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA or WB2CJL @ ZS5S.ZAF.AF.

GL de (DX2) Luciano, I5FLN @ ZS5S.ZAF.AF
/EX
SP KT7H @ N7DUO.WA.USA.NA

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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 15:16:55 GMT
From: noc.near.net!lynx!chaos.dac![e-mail]
Subject: World via Gopher
To: [e-mail]

Something I forgot to include in my last message regarding accessing the
Boston Amateur Radio Club's FTP area via gopher on world.std.com:

To reach the BARC's area, from the main menu:

Select #14 - Membership and Professional Associations

Then #3 - Boston Amateur Radio Club

That's it!

Enjoy, and happy browsing!

P.S. To access the World via gopher, just type: gopher world.std.com
P.P.S. To access the World via FTP, just type: ftp world.std.com

73,
Scott

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Date: 22 Nov 1993 22:17:11 GMT
From: organpipe.uug.arizona.edu!helium![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2cr56u$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: CW QSO's, New hams who need practice read this!!

In article <2cr56u$[e-mail]>, Kok Chen <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>Send mail, and we can set up a schedule.
>

Add me to the list, too. I will work you at whatever speed you like. 40 meters
is best for me, but 15 is available, too, on weekends.

Howard KE7QJ        E-mail direct to [e-mail], NOT to the
                    address listed on the header!

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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 22:37:04 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!gatekeeper.es.dupont.com!esds01.es.dupont.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <1993Nov24.00,<[e-mail]>om
Reply-To : [e-mail]
Subject : Re: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands? G's silliness.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bill Macpherson) writes:
>
>In a previous article, [e-mail] (Thomas Collins  WI3P) says:
>
>>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bill Macpherson) writes:
>>>
>>>Since language inherently includes Spelling, and Grammar.
>>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Do we therfore just throw out all the cultures
>> who never have had a written language?  I don't
>> think so.
>
>No, but let's let those who speak morse, speak morse, of course, of course.
>And the name of that Horse of course of course, is the wonderful Mr ED.

 Are you one of those Coders who is suffering from
 hardening of the arteries or such as Gary likes
 to say?  Just wondering because of your snappy
 comeback......  ;-)

73, Tom WI3P  [e-mail]  or [e-mail]

"Shutup and sit down you moron!"...Ben Stern

*** MY EMPLOYER DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME NOR I FOR THEM  ****

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